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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1997 Week 4 Hansard (6 May) . . Page.. 992 ..

MRS CARNELL: Mr Speaker, what I said was not that there was an independent arm's length audit; there was not one. It is that simple. There are adjustments made at a local level in line with national health data dictionary requirements. That is done regularly. You actually have it. It is what is called the waiting list figure. There are national health data dictionary figures. There is a national approach that changes every now and again, and we reassess to make sure that we are counting in line with national requirements.

In January, Mr Speaker, we have a close-down. I have to say that - - -

Mr Berry: You were not counting them properly before.

MR SPEAKER: Order! You will not be counting at all in a minute.

MRS CARNELL: No; we were counting them properly.

Mr Berry: But they are just bigger now?

MRS CARNELL: Poor old Mr Berry, the person who took waiting lists from 1,700 to 4,500, cannot cope with a situation where we always make sure that we are counting in line with national health data dictionary requirements.

Mr Berry: So, you lied to the Canberra Times? That was not true?

MR SPEAKER: Order!

MRS CARNELL: Mr Speaker, that changes from time to time.

Mr Humphries: On a point of order, Mr Speaker: Mr Berry has several times talked about Mrs Carnell lying, and I would ask that he withdraw those comments.

MR SPEAKER: I did not hear that.

Mr Berry: To the Canberra Times.

Mr Humphries: Whomever. It does not make any difference whom it was to; it is still unparliamentary.

MR SPEAKER: I am sorry; you suggested that the Chief Minister has lied.

Mr Berry: Mr Speaker, I was attempting to draw attention to the fact that the Canberra Times had been misled by - - -

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