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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1997 Week 2 Hansard (27 February) . . Page.. 595 ..

Ms McRae: We were not asked to.

MRS CARNELL: Oh, I am sorry.

Ms McRae: You do not do that at a confidential meeting, for heaven's sake.

MRS CARNELL: Okay. I accept that. Again I come back to the position that the reality is that we have an agreement. It is in line with the Planning and Environment Committee's approach in this area. It is an agreement that I believe is very beneficial to the ACT and it is an agreement that is about jobs. An Auditor-General's report was tabled yesterday that says categorically that we have a problem in this city. We have a problem with growth; we have a problem with jobs; we have a problem with revenue. I believe the only way we can overcome that problem - I totally reject the Auditor-General's view, even though Mr Whitecross yesterday indicated that he always agreed with the Auditor-General - - -

Mr Whitecross: No, I did not.

MRS CARNELL: Yes, you did. The Auditor-General has suggested that what we should really do is rape and pillage in health and education.

Mr Whitecross: You just cannot tell the truth, can you, Kate?

Mr Humphries: I take a point of order, Mr Temporary Deputy Speaker. Mr Whitecross said, "You cannot tell the truth, Kate". That is clearly outside standing orders. It clearly imputes that she is telling lies. I ask that he withdraw it.

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Thank you, Mr Whitecross.

Mr Whitecross: I am sorry, Mr Temporary Deputy Speaker. Are you asking me to withdraw?

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Yes.

Mr Whitecross: I am very reluctant to withdraw. I do not really feel like withdrawing; but, out of respect for you, Mr Temporary Deputy Speaker, I will withdraw.

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Thank you.

MRS CARNELL: That is fine. Mr Temporary Deputy Speaker, we have - - -

Mr Whitecross: At least I was telling the truth.

Mr Humphries: Mr Temporary Deputy Speaker, I think that the remark, "At least I was telling the truth", is clearly a further reiteration of that assertion that Mrs Carnell was lying. I do not think we need it, Mr Temporary Deputy Speaker. We have more important things to do than sit around here hearing those kinds of comments.

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