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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1995 Week 9 Hansard (23 November) . . Page.. 2400 ..

Mrs Carnell: Can we ask who would like to have an hour off and who would like to finish an hour earlier?

MR BERRY: What did you say?

Mrs Carnell: I am sure that most of the people here would rather finish an hour earlier than have an hour off for dinner.

MR BERRY: This is not a matter of individual contracts, Mrs Carnell; this is about longstanding industrial conditions and expectations of employees. People are entitled, after five hours, to have a break and to leave this place. You cannot deny them that just because you want to short-circuit the debate.

Question put:

That the motion (Mr Berry's) be agreed to.

The Assembly voted -

AYES, 9	 	NOES, 8

Mr Berry	Mrs Carnell
Mr Connolly	Mr Cornwell
Ms Follett	Mr De Domenico
Ms Horodny	Mr Hird
Ms McRae	Mr Humphries
Mr Osborne	Mr Kaine
Ms Tucker	Mr Moore
Mr Whitecross	Mr Stefaniak 
Mr Wood		

MR MOORE (5.49): Mr Speaker, it would appear that I will be limited to 11 minutes for this speech. I hope I will not take that long. It was clear to me, Mr Speaker, that through some of the previous speeches the Chief Minister was not in here. I heard some comment this way and that way about why that was the case. Having listened attentively to Ms Tucker's speech in particular, I think there are some specific areas to which the Chief Minister should respond, and the same is true for other speeches. There may be some things to which the Chief Minister does not think she needs to respond, but there are certainly specific areas that I believe do need responses.

One of the first, Mr Speaker, relates to performance indicators. Until we get a satisfactory response about performance indicators, I will have difficulty supporting reforms to the public service that are based on a performance contract. We cannot get performance indicators right, and we have not been able to get them right for six or seven years. It is a question that you are going to have to deal with. You are going to have to show us, not just as part of the budget but also as part of other pieces of legislation.

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