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I think there is another aspect of the problem; that is, there seems to be a presumption in Canberra that the Government will provide everything. There are some resources, some facilities, that should not necessarily be provided by the Government; it ought to be a three-way partnership - the Government, the community and the business world. There are some things that could be provided in Tuggeranong by the private sector, by the business sector. If you go out in the area and ask people what they really think is missing there, they will mention a limited number of things. In the new suburbs they are concerned about not having shops. They are on the drawing board; they will be provided. But they are not going to be provided until the business community is ready to move there. The Government can allocate the land and the Government can provide the planning; but the construction of the facilities and the provision of the services at the end of the day are the responsibility of the private sector. They are not going to move in until they can get a return on their investment and get a funds flood. It is about the right time to put some shops in Conder, and they will be there quite soon. In the meantime, people have a few problems.

I could identify a few things that I think are still missing in Tuggeranong. I think that we are way past the stage of providing facilities for the ageing community down there. There seems to be a presumption that there are not any old people in Tuggeranong.

Mr Berry: You promised to build a nursing home, and you ratted on the promise.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

MR KAINE: Mr Berry, I live there.

Mr Berry: Yes; I know. They promised to build a nursing home for you, Trevor.

MR KAINE: But there are no public health facilities there.

Mr Berry: That is right. There is an empty doctor's office.

MR KAINE: You talk about all the good stuff that you provided.

Mr Connolly: And you are shutting down what is there.

Mr Berry: There is an empty doctor's office there.

MR KAINE: I did not want to make this political; you people made it political. I did not want to do that. But there are 90,000 people there. Where are the health facilities for those 90,000 people?

Mr Berry: Kate reckons that they were not worth the money that was spent there.

MR KAINE: You would complain like hell, I suggest, Mr Berry, if there were not any in Belconnen.

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