Page 2373 - Week 08 - Wednesday, 22 June 1994

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Question put:

That the amendment (Ms Follett's) be agreed to.

The Assembly voted -

AYES, 9   NOES, 8

Mr Berry  Mrs Carnell

Mr Connolly Mr Cornwell

Ms Ellis  Mr De Domenico

Ms Follett  Mr Humphries

Mrs Grassby Mr Kaine

Mr Lamont Mr Moore

Ms McRae Mr Stevenson

Ms Szuty  Mr Westende

Mr Wood

Question so resolved in the affirmative.

MRS CARNELL (Leader of the Opposition) (4.45): I strongly believe that this whole clause should be deleted from this Bill. The reason it should be deleted has already been discussed, and that is that it is an administrative matter. It is a matter that should be handled, as it has been in the past, at the management level, the union level, the government level, but not in legislation. The other thing that concerns me about this particular clause is that it actually does not say anything. As we know, an amendment has been passed providing that a management standard shall provide for this joint council. But from then on what does the clause say? It says:

The Joint Council shall be constituted in such manner as is prescribed.

It will have functions that will be prescribed. It will be representative of the commissioner, government agencies and relevant staff organisations; but it does not say how - - -

Mr Kaine: Who is going to prescribe it?

MRS CARNELL: It does not say who is going to prescribe it. It certainly is not prescribed at this stage. We do not know at this stage who will be on the body and we do not know what functions it will have, but we know that it has to be set up. Quite seriously, that is just not good enough. It is not good enough to pass something in legislation if we do not know what we are passing - and we do not.

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