Page 2127 - Week 07 - Thursday, 16 June 1994

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Mr Berry: I raise a point of order, Madam Speaker. I draw your attention to standing order 47, which says:

A Member who has spoken to a question may again be heard to explain where some material part of that Member's speech has been misquoted or misunderstood, but shall not introduce any new matter, nor interrupt a Member speaking, and no debatable matter ...

We have had the debate. If you want to introduce a new matter, Mrs Carnell, I think you ought to seek leave to move a motion to explain yourself, but I think you are stretching it to use standing order 47.

Mr Humphries: On the point of order, Madam Speaker: This is clearly a matter which falls squarely within standing order 47. This is a matter on which Mrs Carnell has been misunderstood or misquoted in the course of a previous debate. It is a material part of her speech. She is not introducing new matter, she is not interrupting a member speaking, and she is not bringing forward debatable matter, except to explain what has been misunderstood in the previous speech. It is also a matter, I might point out, which does not require leave, even though leave of the house was sought.

MADAM SPEAKER: This one does, actually.

Mr Humphries: I do not think it does.

MADAM SPEAKER: Standing order 46 is my leave; standing order 47 is the chamber's leave.

Mr Humphries: I do not see that it says that, Madam Speaker; but I will take your word for it.

MADAM SPEAKER: By convention, as opposed to the actual wording, Mr Humphries.

Mr Humphries: By convention? All right, Madam Speaker. But I would suggest that this is squarely within standing order 47. If this is not within standing order 47, what is?

MADAM SPEAKER: Normally, it happens straight after a speech is given, but you are quite right. If Mrs Carnell will stick exactly to the requirements of that standing order, she may proceed.

MRS CARNELL: I have every intention of doing that. Thank you, Madam Speaker. - I will be quite brief. In my speech I made the comment that our approach to buses was that we would contract out the services of ACTION buses, which would mean - - -

Mr Lamont: You would sack 1,000 people.


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