Page 4723 - Week 15 - Thursday, 16 December 1993
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MS FOLLETT: Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have concluded my answer to that question. I will say again that, if members opposite would take part in this debate in an adult fashion instead of chucking a wobbly in the way that they have, they would have some hope of understanding the issues in the legislation.
Mr De Domenico: Only when you start telling the truth.
Ms Follett: I take a point of order, Madam Speaker.
MADAM SPEAKER: I am sorry; I could not hear a word that was said, Ms Follett.
Ms Follett: Madam Speaker, the remark by Mr De Domenico was, "Only when you start telling the truth". I believe that that is unparliamentary.
MADAM SPEAKER: It is completely out of order. Please withdraw it.
Mr De Domenico: I apologise, Madam Speaker, and I will change it to "Only when you stop being fraudulent".
MADAM SPEAKER: May I point out that, when there is an imputation against a member, whatever word I have ruled out of order or ruled in order may not be used directly against a member. The use of "fraudulent" was the general use of "fraudulent". Most of the invective I have allowed in the house is in general terms. You will withdraw that, Mr De Domenico.
Mr De Domenico: I beg your pardon?
MADAM SPEAKER: You are not to call the Chief Minister fraudulent. Will you withdraw that?
Mr Humphries: I raise a point of order, Madam Speaker.
MADAM SPEAKER: No, there is no point of order. Mr De Domenico has been asked to withdraw.
Mr De Domenico: Well, why should I withdraw?
MADAM SPEAKER: I have just pointed out why you should withdraw. You may - - -
Mr Kaine: No, you have not. You have tried to justify yourself.
MADAM SPEAKER: I will go through that again very slowly. If you call legislation fraudulent, if you call the Labor Party fraudulent, if you call the Government fraudulent, that is within the scope of parliamentary carry-on. It is not very pleasant; however, I usually allow it. If you call an individual that within the house it is out of order because there is a personal and direct imputation, and I have asked you to withdraw.
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