Page 4410 - Week 14 - Wednesday, 8 December 1993

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MR LAMONT: Tony De Do-Kennett over here has adopted an attitude and a statistical analysis as to how things have changed in the Land of Nod to the south. Let us look at what has happened in the Land of Nod to the south. After this magnificent possible economic reform in Victoria what is going to happen there is that they will reduce by $540 per head the actual deficit being paid for their public transport system. That sounds like a magnificent amount of money. It still means that they will be paying, on average, $350 to $450 a head more than what that subsidy means in the ACT. That is the simple fact of the micro-economic reform in Victoria. But what will happen in Victoria is that the social justice objectives of the public transport system will be the first thing to go. That is not what has happened in the ACT, and it is not what will happen under this Government.

Let me turn to the industrial aspects of micro-economic reform, not just the lovely dry argument that John Hewson talks about. What has happened, Madam Speaker, is that on this side of the house we are proposing - - -

Mr De Domenico: Let us talk about Mr Berry's industrial record.

MADAM SPEAKER: Order, Mr De Domenico!

MR LAMONT: Despite the fact that from time to time differences will arise between the parties as to how to proceed - - -

Mr De Domenico: Like the stop-work meeting this Friday.

MR LAMONT: If the yapper over here can just settle down for a minute he will get to understand what the proper micro-economic reform process is all about.

Mr De Domenico: Not from you.

MR LAMONT: He talked about his experience. Mr Kaine has attested on my behalf in this Assembly. He spoke in glowing terms about my capacity and my involvement in industrial relations when he was the Chief Minister. Far be it from me to try to say of the silver fox that he did not have the right approach at that time. Madam Speaker, most of the people involved - - -

Mr De Domenico: Talk about Mr Berry's approach to industrial relations. He is the Minister. We would rather have you as Minister, actually.

MADAM SPEAKER: Order! Mr De Domenico, I do not think Mr Lamont needs any of your assistance.

MR LAMONT: Or any of his advice, Madam Speaker. Most of the people on this side of the house have forgotten more about industrial relations than Mr De Domenico will ever learn. When Mr De Domenico stands up as the great guru of industrial relations processes he has to be treated with more than the one grain of salt. On this side of the house, when we are talking about micro-economic reform, there is a cooperative approach. That does not mean to say that from time to time there will be - - -


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