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Mr Kaine: No, not in public; only with immunity.

Mr Cornwell: Only with immunity, that is right; and then hiding the evidence.

Mr Kaine: Only with privilege.

Mr De Domenico: No, he is not prepared to hide things. He said so.

MADAM SPEAKER: Order! Mr Berry has the floor.

MR BERRY: We are achieving that commitment, Madam Speaker.

Proposed expenditure agreed to.

Advance to the Minister Administering the Audit Act 1989

Proposed expenditure - Division 270 - Treasurer's Advance, $12m - agreed to.

Remainder of Bill, by leave, taken as a whole

MR CORNWELL (3.34): I move the following amendment circulated in my name:

That the following new clause be inserted in the Bill:

"11. The Executive shall not use money appropriated by this, or any other, Act for the purposes of reducing:

(a)  the number of persons employed as teachers in schools or colleges in the Territory; or

(b)  the number of teaching hours provided overall in those schools and colleges taken as a whole.".

MADAM SPEAKER: It has not yet been circulated, has it? Mr Cornwell, would you desist for a moment and let members have a look at this? May I also see it as it is being circulated? Mr Cornwell, let me make a statement at this stage. The Opposition did me the courtesy of showing me this amendment a couple of hours ago, at lunchtime.

MR CORNWELL: I cannot hear you, Madam Speaker.

MADAM SPEAKER: I was given the opportunity to view this at about one o'clock or so, at lunchtime. I have considered the amendment in the time available. As far as I can ascertain, it is unprecedented here or in the House of Representatives. Members may be aware - I would like to point this out - that here and elsewhere there are very strict limitations on amendments that may be moved to Appropriation Bills. In the United Kingdom no amendment to a motion of Supply is in order, except a simple reduction to the amount demanded. The implications of the amendment circulated, Mr Cornwell, are, to a certain extent, unclear. There could be really important implications for future governments in this Assembly. It should also be noted that the provisions of the Australian Capital Territory (Self-Government) Act, upon which standing orders 200 and 201 are based, may soon be altered.


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