Page 4166 - Week 13 - Thursday, 25 November 1993

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Mr De Domenico: And you want to settle this dispute?

MR BERRY: I am not prepared to keep things quiet.

Mr De Domenico: You are keeping the stat dec quiet.

Mr Kaine: You are interested in full disclosure, except when it suits you.

MADAM SPEAKER: Order!

MR BERRY: I repeat what I read from the Canberra Times article of 17 November. It runs as follows - - -

Mr Kaine: I raise a point of order, Madam Speaker. The debate surely is about whether the Minister is to table or not table a document to which he has referred. What might be said in the Canberra Times can have no bearing on that. That is not the matter that we are debating, and I suggest that the Minister confine himself to the question at issue. He has already taken nearly 16 minutes to answer a question which has led us to this point. It is a waste of question time. He could have chosen to make a ministerial statement. I would suggest that he now be confined to debating the matter before the house, which is an affidavit.

Ms Follett: Madam Speaker, I take a point of order or call for a clarification. The standing order - - -

Mr Kaine: Madam Speaker, I have already taken a point of order which has not been dealt with.

MADAM SPEAKER: Mr Kaine, I am allowed to take another one. Just a minute.

Mr Kaine: You cannot take another point of order, surely, until the first one is dealt with.

MADAM SPEAKER: Mr Kaine, I am the Speaker. I am taking another one.

Ms Follett: Madam Speaker, the standing order to which Mr Humphries referred states:

A document quoted from by a Member may be ordered by the Assembly to be presented ...

Mr Berry has not quoted from any document. He has referred to it and he has said that he has seen it, but he did not quote from it. He does not have it with him. He could not have quoted from it.

MADAM SPEAKER: I will take advice on that, Ms Follett.

Mr Berry, I assumed that you had quoted from it. I am going to ask you the question directly: Did you quote from the document?

Mr Berry: No.

MADAM SPEAKER: I am sorry, Mr Humphries; your motion, unfortunately, is out of order.


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