Page 2702 - Week 09 - Wednesday, 25 August 1993

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I do accept the view - I think Mr Humphries used the word "architects" - that there is a need for people to design the means of assistance. I believe that that happens pretty well - it happens very well, in fact - but it is, in the end, the quality of the artists, their artistic and creative endeavours, that determines what it is people see and the quality of what they see. I think we have been taking very good steps over quite a period in Canberra. I am sure that with this document those steps will be improved and enhanced and that we have a better direction to work to - certainly a clearer direction - to the benefit of all in this city.

Question resolved in the affirmative.

ADJOURNMENT

Motion (by Ms Follett) proposed:

That the Assembly do now adjourn.

Members' Travel

MR HUMPHRIES (4.45): Madam Speaker, I wanted to reflect on some of the discussion that has occurred in the last couple of days about travel and to note that members opposite have been highly critical of this Opposition for daring to raise the question of members of the Government. I am not sure how many members we are talking about because the Chief Minister today drew a distinction between government travel and ministerial travel, and I am not quite sure what the distinction is. She said that it was not a ministerial trip but a government trip that she was undertaking to Japan.

I think it is worth asking a question about what history of responses we have had in this Assembly to the idea of members travelling. I might say that in the majority of cases where members have travelled outside Australia, for whatever reason, there has been heavy criticism of their having done so. The first to do so, I think, was Mr Moore when he went to Liverpool. He was criticised by members of the Alliance Government, I think, for undertaking that trip. Subsequently, when Mr Kaine and I travelled overseas independently in 1990, on leave, at our own expense, there was heavy criticism from members opposite.

Mr Connolly: Just the length of the time, and the people you were abandoning.

Ms Follett: You left Mr Duby in charge.

MR HUMPHRIES: There are always reasons, are there not? When Mr De Domenico, then in this Assembly, travelled to South Africa there was criticism. When I travelled to Japan there was criticism of that. I think it is worth making the point - - -

Mr Lamont: By whom?


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