Page 2684 - Week 09 - Wednesday, 25 August 1993
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MRS CARNELL: What it finds is that the money was for illicit purposes. It shows categorically that the $80,000 was for illicit purposes. That is the important bit - - -
Mr Lamont: No, it does not.
MRS CARNELL: Have you read it?
Mr Lamont: That is what you would hope. It is nothing but a sleazy attack.
MRS CARNELL: What it says categorically is that the $80,000 was for illicit purposes, was for work that was never done, was a movement of money from the No. 1 account to a person. Who moved that money? The person who moved that money was Mr Charles Wright. The person who moved this illicit money from the No. 1 account to a person who was not entitled to it was Mr Charles Wright.
Mr Berry: Is it illicit money or illicit purposes?
MRS CARNELL: He was the agent for distributing money for illicit purposes.
Mr Berry: Was it illicit money or money for illicit purposes?
MRS CARNELL: For illicit purposes. The Oxford Dictionary says that a bagman is an agent who distributes money for illicit purposes. There is no doubt from the inquiry that the money that was distributed was for illicit purposes. That is what the inquiry found. If you would like to read the rest of the report, I would be exceedingly happy. It found that the $80,000 was not appropriate money.
Mr Berry: Did it say that Mr Wright was guilty?
MRS CARNELL: Mrs Brush? Yes, it did.
Mr Berry: No. Did it say that Mr Wright was guilty of anything? No.
MRS CARNELL: No, the illicit money - - -
Mr Connolly: They did not make any adverse finding against Mr Wright.
MRS CARNELL: The money for illicit purposes - - -
Mr Humphries: Come on, Terry! You are a constitutional lawyer, Terry.
Mr Connolly: You know that it did not.
MRS CARNELL: Nobody said that it did. It said that he was a bagman, which he was. He was the agent who distributed money for illicit purposes, quite simply - unless you want to argue with the Oxford Dictionary.
Mr Connolly: "Illicit" means unlawful, and there is no illegality about paying somebody more than for the work that was done. You are a grub, Mrs Carnell. I am disgusted at your conduct.
MRS CARNELL: That is what the commission found. The commission found that the money was illegal.
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