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EVIDENCE (AMENDMENT) BILL 1992

Debate resumed.

MR STEVENSON: Once again, there are plenty of tracks one could take. One could move down the same track of no consultation on the Animal Welfare Bill, and we end up at the same place as we are at today.

MADAM SPEAKER: Mr Stevenson, please speak to the amendment.

MR STEVENSON: There was no consultation on this matter with people in the ACT who should have been consulted. Mr Connolly acknowledged that. He said that it was just a simple matter. It may be simple to you, but it is not simple to a lot of people. A lot of people have concerns in the area. Unlike some who profess to have a remarkable ability to be totally right all the time, there are people who have concerns. Mr Humphries mentioned those concerns. I mentioned some concerns. I specifically said that I was not sure of the matter, but what did you do? In misrepresenting what I said, you talked about whipping up hysteria and whatever. You also issued a challenge. Let me accept it. You, in this Assembly, approved X-rated video pornography that shows depictions of child pornography, and you have the hide to stand up in this Assembly - - -

Mr Connolly: On a point of order, I demand that that be withdrawn. It is indeed a lie. An X-rated video, to be lawful, cannot include child pornography. You know that, and I ask you to withdraw that.

MADAM SPEAKER: Order! Please, Mr Stevenson, withdraw that.

MR STEVENSON: I have not the faintest intention of withdrawing what I said because what I said was - - -

MADAM SPEAKER: Mr Stevenson, I have asked you to withdraw it. Will you be seated when I am speaking to you.

MR STEVENSON: And I have just said that I have not the slightest intention, because what I said was not what he just misrepresented. I said "depictions of child pornography", and X-rated videos show depictions of child pornography - - -

MADAM SPEAKER: Mr Stevenson, I have asked you to withdraw. You will withdraw.

MR STEVENSON: I will never withdraw that X-rated videos show depictions of child pornography, because that is what they depict. They may not show child pornography but they depict it.


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