Page 3277 - Week 12 - Thursday, 19 November 1992
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Mr Berry: On a point of order: It is not justifiable. It was contrary to the standing orders and that is why he was jerked into gear.
MR KAINE: It is not contrary to standing orders.
Mr Lamont: Yes, it is.
Mr De Domenico: How many Speakers have we got?
MADAM SPEAKER: Order! Members may take points of order at any time they wish, Mr De Domenico. Mr Kaine, the problem is that you are starting to explain why you interjected, which means that you are now - - -
MR KAINE: That is what a personal explanation is about, surely.
MADAM SPEAKER: Just let me get advice on this.
Mr Kaine, the points of order that are continually being taken are quite correct, in that you cannot do anything but explain something of a personal nature. However, you have really not proceeded far enough for me to rule accurately that you are really transgressing, so I caution you to carefully keep that standing order in mind. It is by my leave that you are standing, and I may have to ask you to cease.
MR KAINE: Madam Speaker, I will not embarrass the Chair by proceeding further. I think I have made my point.
Open Space
MR WOOD: Madam Speaker, I have a couple of answers to questions that have been raised in recent question times. On 22 October Ms Szuty asked me a question about the ratio of open space per head of population. I have a supplementary answer to her question. The NCDC guidelines - and they continue - provide for four hectares of open space per 1,000 population across each district. Belconnen would be classed as a district. The four hectares is made up of two components - local open space within each suburb and district open space such as town parks and enclosed ovals. The local open space component in the guideline is 2.4 hectares per 1,000 population. The district open space component is 1.6 hectares per 1,000 population. Neither figure has been changed, but you have to lump those two together, it seems.
There are two additional points which I also add. First, in Ms Szuty's original question, she quoted from my letter to the Belconnen Community Council of 1 July 1992. Following further inquiries from the Community Council, I wrote again on 27 August with full details of the breakup of the open space in the guidelines. Second, the NCDC guideline is only a guideline; it is not a gazetted policy and has no statutory effect.
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