Page 300 - Week 02 - Tuesday, 12 May 1992
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and the Liberals say that they want to create jobs. They have to be kidding themselves. At the same time that they support the "frightpack", which, of course, supports the relocation of tens of thousands of ACT jobs to other cities - - -
Mr De Domenico: How many?
MR BERRY: Tens of thousands. Tens of thousands of jobs are to be relocated to Melbourne and to Sydney, away from the ACT. Would the private sector be able to pick up the slack? The best it can do so far is 50 per cent. I would be agitated with the "frightpack" because it is a terrifying document. It is not going to do anything for the ACT, except make it harder for poor people.
On health, it really comes to the fore when it comes to the sorts of difficulties that it will create for the community. It will ensure that there are two health systems - one for the rich and one for the poor - and the poor, of course, will not receive adequate care. They will get Kentucky fried medicine such as occurs in the United States. That is the sort of medicine that the Liberals want to create in Australia. They want to hand over control of medicine to the private sector and to private insurers - the kind, caring private insurers. They have always been kind to the poor! They are renowned for it. We know that. We know how insurance companies have looked after the poor.
We talk about waiting lists. What would happen under "frightpack"? What sort of attention would be provided for the people of the ACT? What sort of hospital care would be available for the ordinary person in the street? I can tell you what sort of hospital care would be available for the ordinary person in the street - expensive care for those that still had jobs. Let us not kid ourselves. Your support for the "frightpack" will bring only horror to the ACT. You are so committed to the Federal gurus that you are not game to move. You are not game to admit that they are wrong. We know that they are wrong. You know that they are wrong. Admit it.
One of the things that we have noticed - the same as has occurred with the Federal Liberals - is that the Liberals hate to see anybody doing a good job and they hate to see them get any credit for it. Over and over again we have seen examples of it. Take health in the ACT, and the sort of financial management that has been introduced there which has produced good results - unprecedented good results - - -
Mrs Carnell: Not many hospital beds.
MR BERRY: You see; they cannot say a good thing about it. They always have to spread poison and disquiet about the hospital system.
Mrs Carnell: The "Yes, Minister" approach to health funding.
MR BERRY: Of course, what Mrs Carnell repeatedly does is spreads the lie about what is going on in our health - - -
Mr De Domenico: Madam Speaker, I raise a point of order. Mr Berry quite clearly said "spreads a lie". I would ask him to withdraw - - -
MR BERRY: "Spreads the lie", I said.
Mr De Domenico: I would ask Mr Berry to withdraw that remark.
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