Page 5788 - Week 18 - Tuesday, 10 December 1991
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MR JENSEN: Mr Wood said that that is the sort of argument he wants. I have passed that on to him.
Mrs Nolan: You defeat your own argument.
Mr Kaine: You just blew your own argument.
MR JENSEN: Mr Wood said that he wanted those arguments. Some people have put that, but not all of the people, because they are concerned about the community in which these people have to live.
MR SPEAKER: That is the end of your time, Mr Jensen.
MR KAINE (Leader of the Opposition) (4.12): Unlike Mr Jensen, I do not intend to use every second of my 15 minutes to speak. Mr Jensen goes over the top sometimes. He talks himself into it, as I have said before, and then he talks himself out of it. That is just what he did, because he could not stop. He got to the point of saying that there is going to be a reduction in property values and therefore it should not be done.
Mr Jensen always takes the most extreme case. What we are talking about here is not a Melba flats situation. We are talking about 24 units. Sixteen of them are townhouse units or garden apartments and only eight of them are flats. How anybody can say that this is a high concentration, a high density, I simply do not understand. It is not that. It is not that in any sense. So, I find no difficulty with the proposal from that point of view.
The people who have complained - I have a copy of the same letter that Mr Jensen has got - tend to argue against themselves. In one place they make the argument that Mr Jensen tries to put so forcefully, that is, that it is a 25-minute walk to the nearest facilities; but just before that they make the point that there are going to be between 100 and 150 additional traffic movements. There are only 24 units. One can only assume that to get 100 traffic movements a day they are going to have two cars apiece and they are going to go in and out all day. If they have that number of cars, there might be the odd family who has transport difficulty; but it is not going to be a very great problem, except for the odd one.
Then they argue, having said that there are going to be 100 to 150 traffic movements, that there is going to be on-street parking which is going to cause difficulty. Each one of these units has its own parking and its own garaging, so there is not going to be any on-street parking. The problems that the people present here in terms of the traffic movement are imaginary. There is not going to be any such problem.
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