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buses with Mr Stevenson, I know which bus I am on, and it is certainly not the bus Mr Stevenson is running on most of the issues. However, on this issue I happen to be prepared to support the Bill.

Many of the people in the congregation of which I am a member have encouraged me to continue to support this move to remove what is, on the admission of the X-rated film industry, material that has no artistic merit whatsoever.

Mr Moore: That is a value judgment.

MR JENSEN: That is their judgment, Mr Moore. They have admitted to me that the majority of the material in the X-rated category that is available in the ACT has no artistic merit whatsoever.

Mr Berry: Have you watched them?

MR JENSEN: Yes, I have seen them. That is why I believe that it is appropriate for them to be banned. Maybe if you had had a look at them, you might have a similar view. Mr Berry today has implied that the sorts of people I talk to regularly are wowsers. I can assure you, Mr Speaker, that they are not wowsers, and they would be deeply offended by that term. They are people who are concerned about access to this material by people within our community, particularly the younger groups.

Once again, Mr Berry has been very selective in some of his comments. He referred to censorship. On the one hand he said - I heard him say it, and I am sure the Hansard will bear me out - that we should be able to watch what we want to. However, Mr Berry knows full well that there is material that has not been given a rating by the Commonwealth Chief Censor. It has, in fact, been censored. It is banned.

There is also material the Commonwealth Censor looks at and gives a rating indicating that it is not suitable for children under 15 years. That is a form of censorship. So, on the one hand Mr Berry is saying that we should not have censorship, and on the other hand he is accepting the fact that there is a form of censorship.

Mr Duby: No, he is not.

MR JENSEN: That is a form of censorship. He did say that we should be able to watch what we want to. Mr Berry knows full well that that is not possible, for a number of reasons.

Like his comments on censorship, Mr Berry's comments on film festivals have been very selective. He made his statement in relation to my colleague Dr Kinloch, but nowhere in his speech did I hear him offer any proof to back up his allegation that such activity took place. Mr Berry is once again being very selective. He is the master


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