Page 678 - Week 02 - Thursday, 21 February 1991
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MS FOLLETT: Mr Kaine, by way of his interjection, in fact makes my point for me, Mr Speaker. The two committees which already exist have specified membership and therefore the proposal put up by Mr Collaery specifies the membership of this new joint committee. I do not believe that that is appropriate.
Mr Speaker, in conclusion, I insist on hearing from Dr Kinloch, as the chair of the Standing Committee on Conservation, Heritage and Environment, on how he proposes to overcome what appears to me to be a fairly substantial obstacle to his committee's participation in this new joint committee. His committee has already voted not to consider this legislation. I do not believe that we can conclude this debate without knowing what attitude that committee is going to take and, of course, what attitude the Government is going to take towards the legitimate decision of that committee.
MR COLLAERY (Attorney-General) (6.42), in reply: Mr Speaker, after consulting my colleague, Dr Kinloch, I move to close this debate.
Mr Berry: I take a point of order. Did I hear the member say that he was moving to gag debate?
Mr Kaine: No, he did not say that. He said that he was moving to close the debate.
Mr Duby: What is the point of order?
Mr Berry: I want to speak to the amendment.
Mr Kaine: He is moving to close the debate, which he is entitled to do.
Mr Berry: I was on my feet walking back to my place.
MR SPEAKER: You were not in your place, Mr Berry. I called the person who got to his feet first. Mr Collaery got to his feet first.
Mr Connolly: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. When a Minister rises to close a debate it is customary to allow other members an opportunity to get to their feet. Dr Kinloch was clearly rising. He may have been beaten by Mr Collaery, but one ought to give Dr Kinloch the opportunity to speak before it is closed.
MR SPEAKER: Order! Yes, I understand. Your point is upheld and valid, Mr Connolly. However, on Mr Collaery's words, he has agreement from Dr Kinloch that Dr Kinloch will defer.
MR COLLAERY: Yes, I consulted - - -
Mr Berry: I take a point of order. I defer to Dr Kinloch.
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