Page 4924 - Week 17 - Tuesday, 11 December 1990
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Mr Berry: Well, let me repeat Dr Kinloch's own words. Dr Kinloch raised a point of order on 29 November and said: "Mr Speaker, on a point of order: I apologise for being either threatening or violent". So he knew what he was doing. I would suggest that Mr Collaery ought not to talk about something he did not even bother to come and listen to.
MR SPEAKER: Thank you, Mr Berry. Please proceed.
Mr Berry: These people opposite are kidding themselves on this issue. It was frightening for people in this chamber. The fact of the matter is that on one other occasion, Mr Speaker, Mr Moore was suspended from this Assembly for behaviour which was considered to be a grave offence against order in this place, otherwise he would not have been thrown out. And I was suspended from this place when I said to you, Mr Speaker, something about reprehensible behaviour and my lack of tolerance with the way this place was being run.
I say to you, Mr Speaker, that on all of those occasions the behaviour that presented itself to you was significantly lighter in terms of threat to the Assembly than the actions of Dr Kinloch. I think it is up to you, Mr Speaker, to observe the standing orders and to name Dr Kinloch for that outrageous behaviour in this place. If you do that I will move to have him suspended because I think that, to preserve the dignity of this place, he ought to be suspended.
Mr Collaery: Mr Speaker, there is a very simple answer to what Mr Berry is saying. The standing orders are the rule book to control the conduct of debate and the proceedings in the chamber. Mr Berry is addressing an issue that has occurred - something on which you, as Speaker, have ruled already. He is either reflecting on your previous rulings, Mr Speaker, or reflecting on the statement you made when the house resumed today. I am not sure which, as he did not make it clear. Mr Berry is attempting to dredge up an issue that has been ruled on, and on which you, Mr Speaker, quite properly have commented. I put to you, Mr Speaker, that there is no substance in this point of order - - -
Mr Berry: You were not here.
MR SPEAKER: Order!
Mr Collaery: The Opposition knows, Mr Speaker, that the Government has a great deal of business to do this week and we are seeing the union tactics again.
Dr Kinloch: Mr Speaker, am I allowed to make a - - -
Mr Berry: You are allowed to raise a point of order; otherwise sit down.
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