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Mr Kaine: I mentioned no sum of money whatsoever. He is misrepresenting the situation again.

MR SPEAKER: Order! Please take that up as a personal explanation. Please proceed, Mr Berry.

MR BERRY: He said $21m, Mr Speaker, and, of course, I did not have responsibility for that amount of money in my portfolio area.

Mr Humphries: Yes, you could not be trusted with it.

Ms Follett: On a point of order, Mr Speaker: Mr Humphries interjected that Mr Berry could not be trusted with it. I must ask him to withdraw that.

MR SPEAKER: Order! I do not believe that that was a suggestion that Mr Berry would go anywhere with it.

Ms Follett: Mr Speaker, what he said was that he could not be trusted with it. That is clearly an imputation.

Members interjected.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Ms Follett: On a further point of order, Mr Speaker: under standing order 55 it is a personal reflection on a member, and according to that standing order it should be considered highly disorderly. What he said was that he could not be trusted with it. If that is not a personal reflection, I do not know what is. I ask that it be withdrawn.

MR SPEAKER: Order! I genuinely do not believe that that is the interpretation that I would put on it. I do not put on it that it was reflecting on him as a person, but as the Minister within the group who had responsibility for the funding.

Mr Berry: Mr Speaker, I raise a further point of order on that matter. I refer you to page 486 of House of Representatives Practice:

Offensive words may not be used against any Member and all imputations of improper motives and all personal reflections upon Members are considered to be highly disorderly.

That makes it clear.

MR SPEAKER: I am sorry, I do not see it that way. I have ruled on it and that is enough of the issue, if you do not mind. Please proceed.

MR BERRY: Mr Speaker, the fact of the matter is that the Chief Minister made an accusation that there was some sort of stripping of the CDF. Now this Chief Minister - - -


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