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in financial management goes, and how much they would be prepared to promise to these people - not only the ones that up until now have been within the CDF, but the ones that by their decisions have been excluded from it.

This has infinite possibilities. You can put any figure you like on it. What is it - $50m, $60m? Where is Mr Berry now? His babbling has stopped because he cannot stand to hear this. I would like him to tell me, if he got back into government in 15 months' time, whether his upper limit on the money that he would be prepared to give away would be $20m, $30m, $40m or $50m. What is the limit, Mr Berry? In future there will be no cap on it. It is entirely up to you to decide how much you give away. We will be interested to see whether you are prepared to put your money where your mouth is when the time comes. You know as well as I know, that there is a constraint, there is a limit on how much can be provided for these purposes - - -

Mr Berry: We will not tell fibs, though. That is what you have told in respect of this fund. You have misled them.

MR KAINE: Whether the money is in a CDF or not is totally irrelevant. It is absolutely and totally irrelevant.

Mr Humphries: On a point of order, Mr Speaker: I object to the word "fibs".

Mr Berry: I withdraw "fibs".

MR SPEAKER: Just a moment, Mr Berry.

Mr Berry: You have misled them.

MR SPEAKER: Order, Mr Berry! I ask you to withdraw the word "fibs".

Mr Berry: I have withdrawn it.

MR SPEAKER: Please get on your feet - I know it is difficult - and speak up so that they can hear you.

Mr Berry: I withdraw the word "fibs" and replace it with "mislead".

MR SPEAKER: That is a qualified withdrawal.

MR KAINE: Mr Speaker, I do not care, because, as I have said before, people have stopped listening to him. They have listened to his ranting and his raving, his misrepresentation and his posturing for so long that nobody listens any more. I am not fussed, and I do not think anybody else is either, by his mutterings and his mumblings.


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