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continue with the business of the house and the matter of public importance. Instead, we have Mr Humphries raising a spurious accusation - spurious, more than anything else, because it is nothing different from what happens in this Assembly. What happens on most occasions is that the Government simply uses its numbers to protect itself. So the precedent has been set, time and time again, when people have been caught out for telling anything but the truth. We saw it just a minute ago with Mr Collaery's response on his travel arrangements.
MR SPEAKER: Mr Moore, I believe that you are going down the same path. You obviously do not recognise what you are saying. I would ask you to withdraw that imputation that Mr Collaery has somehow done something incorrect or against the law.
MR MOORE: Mr Speaker, the Chief Minister has told the Estimates Committee, quite clearly, that the travel arrangements were not according to the Australian Capital Territory (Self-Government) Act.
Mr Kaine: Mr Speaker, that is a lie.
MR SPEAKER: Order! Mr Moore, please! Chief Minister, I would ask you to withdraw that. You must raise it as a substantive motion.
Mr Kaine: Mr Speaker, I cannot withdraw a truthful statement.
MR MOORE: Mr Speaker, I cannot withdraw a truthful statement.
Mr Kaine: He just deliberately misquoted me.
MR MOORE: He just goes on like this all the time, and that is what he said. Under section 73, it was against the law. He said that in the Estimates Committee.
Mr Kaine: I withdraw it; but he will get his comeuppance, believe me.
MR SPEAKER: Thank you. Mr Moore, would you desist from talking over others and please get to the point? Have you withdrawn that point?
MR MOORE: No, Mr Speaker. I am in exactly the same boat as the Chief Minister. He said that what I said was a lie. I say that what he said was a lie. So we have not moved.
MR SPEAKER: Order! Mr Moore, the Chief Minister withdrew the statement. I ask you to do the same.
MR MOORE: I will withdraw it in exactly the same way as the Chief Minister withdrew.
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