Page 4154 - Week 14 - Thursday, 25 October 1990

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MR BERRY: Thank you. I am going to make it very clear, Mr Speaker, during the course of the speeches that I make on the matter - and that might be something of an indication to the Minister - that what I have set out to do is to improve the delivery of services in the ACT and that the Minister's attempt to censure me will again, in itself, be misleading the people of Canberra about the provision of services in the ACT. All of the facts need to be laid on the table again to ensure that this motion does not succeed, because this motion is wrongly directed.

Mr Speaker, I said that I understood that in the 27 days between 26 September and 22 October 1990 there were 112 - - -

Mr Humphries: Mr Speaker, I take a point of order.

MR BERRY: Is this supposed to be a lie, too?

MR SPEAKER: Order, Mr Berry! Resume your seat.

Mr Humphries: Mr Speaker, Mr Berry is about to read his press release of Tuesday. With the greatest respect, I urge you again to remind Mr Berry that the issue is not what he said about the Ambulance Service generally; it is what he said about the Ambulance Service in one particular instance. It is about nothing else. It is not about my handling of the Ambulance Service. It is about his statement to the Assembly.

MR SPEAKER: Mr Berry, I do believe it is a specific issue.

Ms Follett: We have not got the motion.

Mr Connolly: We have not seen the motion. You will not let him defend himself.

MR SPEAKER: Would the house like to suspend the sitting until the motion is photocopied and presented, or would you like to proceed on the advice that there is a verbal understanding of what the motion is?

MR BERRY: The motion says "That Mr Berry be censured for misleading the Assembly", and I am trying to defend myself.

MR SPEAKER: Well, you now have a copy of the motion.

MR BERRY: That is right, and I will read it to you, Mr Speaker, just to refresh your mind. It says:

I move: "That this Assembly censure Mr Berry for misleading the Assembly".

So it is not specific. If Mr Humphries wants to put in motions that are specific he should do so. This is just another clumsy effort on his part when he wants to get a particular message across. This clumsy Minister is not only clumsy in these sorts of Assembly management matters;


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