Page 4152 - Week 14 - Thursday, 25 October 1990

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We do not close down the debate. The Government here now has a long record, evidenced again this week, that it is more than prepared to close down debate that it will find embarrassing, debate that it does not want to undertake. Mr Humphries, you have a cheek to stand up here - - -

Mr Humphries: I take a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr Wood continues to debate the circumstances by which we came to bring this matter on today rather than the substance of the debate, which is Mr Berry's impropriety in misleading the Assembly. Ask him to be relevant.

MR SPEAKER: Mr Wood, please proceed to the point.

MR WOOD: Well, he has a cheek. He stood up yesterday and adjourned a debate because he was too embarrassed to engage in it. I do not think Mr Humphries should stand up on any point of order because he has no credibility in that area.

Mr Moore: But at least he did not say it was sub judice. He did not lie about that.

Mr Collaery: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: I think I heard that.

Mr Collaery: I heard Mr Moore. I think we all heard him say, "At least he did not say it was sub judice. He did not lie about that". Mr Speaker, I do not think we will gain the respect of the public while Mr Moore is in the Assembly. I nevertheless ask that, each time he does that, you be vigilant and call him to order and ask him to withdraw it. He may persist at some stage in the future.

MR SPEAKER: Please withdraw that, Mr Moore.

Mr Moore: I said, "At least he did not tell a lie; he did not say it was sub judice". I did not say that the man lied, or any of that at all. I do not see the point that he is trying to make. If Mr Collaery feels that he has lied about something, then that is quite reasonable.

MR SPEAKER: Order, Mr Moore! By imputation you are reflecting on the integrity of the Minister. Please just withdraw.

Mr Moore: In order to allow the good workings of the Assembly to continue, Mr Speaker, I shall withdraw.

MR WOOD: Mr Speaker, let me make it quite clear, since I was challenged, that I have every confidence in Mr Berry. He proved himself to be a very competent Minister, much more competent than the present incumbent. He was, at all times, on top of the issues and provided an outstanding administration. I am quite prepared to see this debate continue. It may be in the end that the sheer weight of numbers, the ruthless enforcement of numbers, will see that


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