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I am in a bit of a dilemma. It seems that we should have approached this in a different way and Mr Berry's point is still valid. I would ask that we proceed in this manner but allow the debate to continue to enable other members who wish to speak on the issue to do so. Is that acceptable?

MR HUMPHRIES: Mr Speaker, may I speak to your ruling?

MR SPEAKER: Yes.

MR HUMPHRIES: Could I suggest, Mr Speaker, that Mr Berry move to take note of the statement I make and debate it on that basis?

Mr Berry: No, I am not going to move to take note of the paper. That is stupid, Gary.

Mr Kaine: Well, you can move that the Assembly takes note of it and then he can debate it.

Mr Berry: I do not accept that, Mr Speaker. The appropriate course is for the Minister to move a motion and for the matter to be debated, as has been your ruling in the past. I am prepared to stand by that ruling and I expect that the Minister should stand by it as well.

MR SPEAKER: In other words, then, you want a second motion from Mr Humphries to - - -

Mr Berry: On notice, as everybody else would have to put it.

MR SPEAKER: Yes. We could, under the circumstances, suspend standing orders to allow that motion to be presented before the house now.

Mr Moore: I take a point of order, Mr Speaker. You have actually given a ruling and that ruling was questioned by the Chief Minister. You are now responding to that. If he is going to question your ruling, you have given us an instruction on how that should be done; he should do it in writing and with a day's notice.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you, Mr Moore, but under the circumstances - - -

Mr Moore: If we change our manoeuvres we have a new set of rules and a new precedent is set.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you for your observation, Mr Moore. We are trying to resolve an issue so that we all get this sorted out. It was my error, if you wish; I did not quickly inform Mr Humphries of the correct procedure.

Mr Moore: Yes, but since that time you have made a ruling and the Chief Minister has got you to rethink that. We will accept your previous ruling.


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