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Services Department in program 15 had actually increased spending on his bureaucracy while decreasing in real terms his spending on non-government organisations funded through program 15.

MR SPEAKER: Order! Mr Moore, I do not believe that this is appropriate.

MR MOORE: It is already public knowledge, Mr Speaker. Mr Collaery was not able to refute the evidence and we are still waiting for him to do so. However, he did say, and I quote - - -

Mr Jensen: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I just draw your attention to standing order 117(e)(ii), Mr Speaker.

Mr Wood: Mr Collaery asked you to.

Mr Jensen: I was going to do it anyway, Bill.

MR SPEAKER: I am tossing that one up, Mr Moore. I really believe that it is out of order because it is on issues relating to the funding rather than asides that were made in the Estimates Committee hearings which I have allowed to be asked about before. I think in this case it is out of order.

MR MOORE: I have finished the reference to it, apart from the actual quote from a little bit of Hansard that I was going to give to clarify the position to the Chief Minister. I said to Mr Collaery:

I am asking you is it an intentional policy to increase the public service sector on community service and decrease the non-government organisations sector?

Mr Collaery's reply was:

I have said on many occasions I have sought to find savings, for example, by readjusting and finding bureaucratic savings so clearly it is not my intention to do that.

So it is not his intention to do that sort of thing. Now I am getting to the question; that was really background. In attempting to assess the Government's stance on this matter, I looked for Alliance Government policy and then looked further. I could find no Alliance policy on welfare, on youth, on justice administration, or on maintenance of law and order. So my question to you, Chief Minister, is: Are you content for the Minister to respond in a knee-jerk fashion on welfare and justice issues or is Mr Collaery one of your 60 Minutes Ministers that you would prefer to manage without?


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