Page 4124 - Week 14 - Thursday, 25 October 1990
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MR KAINE (Chief Minister) (12.17): Mr Speaker, I am constantly confounded by Mr Moore's approach to some of these subjects. This discussion paper is the result of a deliberate act on the part of the Attorney-General to open up the debate about what the court system in a self-governing ACT should look like.
Mr Moore: He closed the debate into a particular narrow area - a unified system; no debate. What can we debate within the unified system?
MR KAINE: You seem to have a mind-set about something, Mr Moore. I suggest that you open your mind a little bit and instead of - - -
Mr Moore: Mind-sets reading from his terms of reference.
MR SPEAKER: Order! Order, Mr Moore!
Mr Moore: Mr Speaker, I raise a point of order. Could you ask the Chief Minister to direct his comments to me through the Chair.
MR SPEAKER: Thank you, Mr Moore. Please proceed, Chief Minister.
MR KAINE: Mr Moore always begins on the assumption that whatever the Attorney-General does is wrong.
Mr Berry: You should have a look at the terms of reference. The Chief Minister has not even bothered to look at the terms of reference yet.
MR KAINE: That is always the presumption from which he begins. Instead of - - -
Mr Moore: You did not listen to what I said.
MR KAINE: Mr Speaker, do I have to engage in a continuing debate with these mimics across the floor? Mr Gumshoe up front here ought to be told to keep quiet once in a while.
MR SPEAKER: Order!
MR KAINE: You never stop talking during any debate.
Mr Moore: Look at the book. He has only turned over a couple of pages.
MR SPEAKER: Order, Mr Moore, please!
MR KAINE: Mr Moore seems to totally set aside the basic idea, which was originated by the Attorney-General, that we should look at our court system and aim to do two things: firstly, to find out how the courts can better do their work and, secondly, to find out how to do it more cheaply - the very things that Mr Moore is criticising us for not
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