Page 3848 - Week 13 - Thursday, 18 October 1990

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MR SPEAKER: Order! I believe you will be closing the debate, Dr Kinloch?

DR KINLOCH: Yes.

MR SPEAKER: Did you want to speak, Mr Wood?

Mr Wood: I have spoken.

MR SPEAKER: Please proceed, Dr Kinloch.

DR KINLOCH: Mr Speaker, may I go in reverse order in commenting on a number of speakers? I very much endorse much that Gary Humphries has said, and I would acknowledge the members of the committee who were there before those of us who actually completed the report. So, my thanks especially to Mr Humphries, who was the first chairman, Ms Maher, Mr Moore, Mr Wood - who was on both ends of the committee, so to speak - and, of course, Mr Stefaniak. I also remember Ms Peta Roberts.

As all of us who were involved with that committee would agree, it was a tremendous learning experience. We believe that we did the best we could in all the recommendations we made, but I would re-endorse what Mr Humphries has said concerning the immense complexity of any one decision on the environment. You make one decision and you affect another decision. You come to one conclusion relating to an environmental matter and you discover that you have upset the balance in some other area. It is a very tricky matter.

The matter of big bins, of course, is an obvious one, and I will come to that later. I like the notion of split big bins, and we did see some indication of that. I would like to come back to that question again later. I am very glad indeed to hear from Mr Collaery that there are investigations continuing on the recycled paper question. We had problems with that. We were reluctant about saying that there is too much paper; that it cannot be recycled. But it does look as though there are some technological changes that might lead to new developments.

There was a lively exchange during Mr Collaery's discussion on the greenhouse effect, and may I refer to that just briefly. I would strongly commend the current issue of the National Geographic to all members. It is a monthly joy for those of us who subscribe to it and it has a very special issue this month, much of it on the greenhouse question. I cannot vouch for its scientific accuracy, but I must say that it was one of the clearest things I have read.

I thank Norm Jensen very much for his comments. I agree with him about the problem of littering. Indeed, the tips themselves are a great problem, as any of you who go there regularly would recognise. I am not too sure what can be done about that.


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