Page 3752 - Week 13 - Wednesday, 17 October 1990

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MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Let us hear his point of order first, Mr Duby.

Mr Moore: I draw your attention, Mr Deputy Speaker, to the fact that Mr Duby has just said the same thing round and round again quite a few times. Standing order 62 covers irrelevance or tedious repetition. On both points you could ask him to sit down and terminate his speech.

MR DUBY: I have not said the same thing round and round at all. I am pointing out facts which are close to the bone and which you, of course, and your best mates in those five chairs, do not like to hear.

Mr Berry: On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker: the issue is not whether the Labor Party will participate on committees which are chaired by - - -

MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: What is your standing order, Mr Berry?

Mr Berry: No. 62, relevance. The issue is not whether the Labor Party participates on committees that are chaired by Executive Deputies; it is the structure of this Estimates Committee which is now considering the Government's ill-fated Budget.

MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Just a second, Mr Berry. I think we have probably almost exhausted the subject and are starting to go around in circles. I do not necessarily accept your point of order. I think there has been a wide-ranging discussion going across the whole question of committees. I think we are starting to repeat ourselves, so perhaps you could bear that in mind, Mr Duby.

MR DUBY: Yes, by all means. As I said, these are the people who refused to go on committees and now we have them showing their colours, because they say this is a very important committee. I must point out - - -

Mr Moore: I raise a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. He has gone on exactly with what you just instructed him not to. I refer to standing order 202(e).

MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Thank you, Mr Moore. If he continues to do that I will pull him up, but he is now getting back to what I regard as being the point we are discussing here. Please stick to it, Mr Duby.

MR DUBY: Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I must point out that Mr Berry showed his colours when he said that the composition of this particular committee, the Estimates Committee, is vitally important and, "Come what may, we are going to put in a minority report". The committee has not yet even judged the issues that it is going to report about; but he said, "We will be putting in a minority report". So he has indicated that the whole - - -


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