Page 3750 - Week 13 - Wednesday, 17 October 1990
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to think about what it would be like if we had 10 people from your faction on this side and seven from whatever other combination on that side. How much cooperation would be proffered by people whose idea of negotiation conformed with that of Mr Berry?
Mr Wood: You do not know much about the parliamentary system, do you?
MR DUBY: I also know a little bit about the way Mr Berry likes to debates issues, and the way Mr Berry reneges on a whole variety of things. Talking of reneging, the question is, Mr Berry: did you or did you not lead our party Whip to believe that you would go along with this arrangement?
Mr Berry: No.
MR DUBY: Did you or did you not? Did you or did you not? I repeat the question. I have seven minutes and 10 seconds to go. I can ask you again and again and again.
Mrs Nolan: I have already made my statement. It was true and accurate.
MR DUBY: Thank you; but we want to get it out of this man's mouth. Did you or did you not lead our party Whip to believe that you were quite satisfied, on behalf of the Labor Party, with the arrangement that was put to you by the party Whip last evening? The answer, of course, is: yes, you did. No matter what you say about it - whether you say, "I did" or "I did not" or "I might have" or "I might not have", or "maybe" or "yes" or "no" - you did.
Mr Berry: On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker: There is a clear imputation that I have lied to the Assembly, Mr Deputy Speaker. I think my comments are on the record and so are Mrs Nolan's.
MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: I do not believe there is a clear imputation there, Mr Berry, but - - -
MR DUBY: No, there is no imputation at all. I am repeating - - -
MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr Duby, I ask you, and I ask other members in this debate, to address your remarks through the Chair. Let us not have criss-cross debate.
MR DUBY: I am sorry. Have you finished with your ruling, Mr Deputy Speaker?
MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Yes, I have. Continue now and address your remarks through the Chair, not directly to Mr Berry.
MR DUBY: Well, Mr Deputy Speaker, can you ask him, "Did he or did he not?". That is the point of the question. It is an issue because it is typical of the sort of malarky we get from this other side of the Assembly - the absolute
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