Page 3376 - Week 12 - Tuesday, 18 September 1990
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MR SPEAKER: That is a correct observation and I uphold your position there, Mr Humphries. The fact is Mr Berry, that you cannot speak on Mr Humphries' statements because he spoke before Mrs Grassby's amendment was tabled. Therefore, you cannot comment on what Mr Humphries said.
MR BERRY: The fact of the matter is that the Labor Party was the party that formed the Government when proposals were made which, I should say, referred to the date. I have to raise an issue as it was mentioned in the transcript. This was a motion that was moved by Mr Kaine. Now, before members opposite spring to their feet - I know they are a bit touchy about this as they have been found out because they have not explained the Estimates Committee position in the Federal house - - -
Mr Kaine: On a point of order, Mr Speaker: I raise standing order 58 - relevance. The only matter under discussion is the date, because that is the only matter that is the subject of Mrs Grassby's amendment.
MR SPEAKER: Your position is upheld there, Chief Minister.
MR BERRY: The fact of the matter is, Mr Kaine, that you moved and it appears - - -
Mr Kaine: I raise the same point of order, Mr Speaker. It is irrelevant what I moved.
MR SPEAKER: Chief Minister, I cannot judge what he is about to say until I hear it.
Mr Kaine: He is talking about what I moved and it is totally irrelevant.
MR SPEAKER: The original motion did have a date in it, Chief Minister, and until he gets to the point I do not know what he is saying. Please proceed, Mr Berry.
MR BERRY: I am having some difficulty getting to the point, Mr Speaker, because the jittery members opposite have been found out in relation to this matter. I will seek to make every endeavour to get to the point; at the same time I would seek to ensure that the members opposite are made fully aware of the errors of their ways. At this point I might add that they are not going to get off so lightly in this debate because other colleagues, of course, will be speaking on the matter. The fact of the matter is, Mr Speaker, that in relation to the date which was referred to in the amendment moved by my colleague Mrs Grassby, Mr Kaine moved - and it is shown in Hansard on page 1697, in the middle of paragraph two - - -
Mr Jensen: On a point of order, Mr Speaker: it seems to me that Mr Berry is talking about a date in 1989. I seem to recall that the dates we are talking about in the amendment moved by Mrs Grassby are 2 or 5 November 1990. I would suggest that Mr Berry can talk about only that issue.
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