Page 2957 - Week 10 - Thursday, 16 August 1990

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What is also true is that there will be double the private hospitals, if he ever gets to implement his plan, which I doubt. There will be double the private hospital beds. There will be an increased burden on the people of Canberra because of the requirement to privately insure or pay for expensive private beds.

He has said we will not lose any beds from the public sector. He has misled again. The Minister has already given away 24 obstetric beds. "There will be no less", he says. He misleads again. But, of course, they were given to the private sector.

The facts are that the proportion of public beds available to the ordinary people of Canberra will be less - - -

Mr Humphries: On a point of order, Mr Speaker: are you going to rule that to say that I misled the people is out of order or not?

MR SPEAKER: Well, it is a censure motion and I believe that - - -

Mr Humphries: But it has not been suggested in the motion that I have misled anybody.

MR BERRY: Well, you will have the chance to refute it.

Mr Collaery: And, Mr Speaker, you let him say it about me too.

MR SPEAKER: Order! Throughout your debate, Mr Berry, you did state that the house had been misled, and I believe that is inappropriate because it is a matter of a censure motion that should be written as such. You did not write those words in there. So I would ask you to withdraw them.

MR BERRY: I seek leave for a short extension, Mr Speaker. (Extension of time granted)

Mr Collaery: Are you going to withdraw?

MR BERRY: The people of Canberra are misled.

MR SPEAKER: I would ask that you use the correct terminology for the Hansard.

Mr Jensen: Your previous references, Mr Berry.

MR BERRY: I have done it.

Mr Jensen: You have not.

MR SPEAKER: Order, Mr Jensen, please! Mr Berry, please withdraw.


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