Page 2934 - Week 10 - Thursday, 16 August 1990

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MR COLLAERY: And Mr Wood gives him that. He has done that. He has subjected himself to that process. That is open consultative government. You cannot deny that. You have a courageous Minister here. He is game, and you cannot deny it.

Mr Wood: But it is not enough on its own, is it?

MR COLLAERY: Courage and straightforwardness are two of the best qualities in politics, as you well know, Mr Wood - and he has them. That motion yesterday that there be no school closures really sets the seal on Labor's debate. Labor members really do not have a program to do it. They are probably secretly glad they are not in government; they will not have to make the hard decisions. Let me come to how they make decisions. Let me go to the Hansard of 28 September last year. Mr Berry, when talking about his health budget and other things, said:

... Rosemary Follett announced the additional domestic violence refuge, another important refuge for women.

Of course, we found out later, Mr Speaker - - -

Mr Berry: Mr Speaker, I raise a point of order concerning relevance. The subject of domestic violence review is not the matter which is under debate. The issue which is under debate is the amendment.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you; do not debate it. Your objection is overruled. Please proceed, Mr Collaery.

Mr Berry: Well, Mr Speaker, I - - -

MR SPEAKER: Your objection is overruled.

Mr Berry: Well, I rise to another point of order, Mr Speaker, in relation to your ruling on the last point of order that I raised. The issue is clearly not the issue which is the subject of the amendment.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you for your observation, Mr Berry. I have taken that into account. I have ruled against you. Please return to your seat. Continue, Mr Collaery.

MR COLLAERY: Mr Speaker, I am talking about deception and inconsistency. Mr Berry does not want to know that.

Mr Berry: There is none.

MR COLLAERY: Well, when it came to getting that domestic violence refuge - something I pressed your Government to do when I was in Opposition - we found that in the women's budget there was not the money. What you had done, as you well know, was purport to appropriate SAAP funds that belonged to a joint Commonwealth-State funding arrangement when the legislation clearly required you to consult a


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