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is the question of who is to be master in this Territory - the elected members of the Assembly or a view of the Executive Government on powers of the Assembly? All members of this Assembly, particularly those who take an interest in the history and background of parliamentary institutions - again Dr Kinloch is a person to whom we would be looking for support on this - should support these proposed amendments to the standing orders to assert the ability of this parliament to debate in the proper forum the fundamental issue that is before the Territory.

MR HUMPHRIES (Minister for Health, Education and the Arts) (10.58): I think we should very clearly indicate, for the sake of the Hansard record, just what is happening this morning in this place. Members opposite are grandstanding. They are stating a position for the sake of their public image, for the sake of the members of the media, who stand outside, and for the sake of the gallery.

Mr Kaine: They will mail the transcript out to all their mates.

MR HUMPHRIES: They will mail the transcript to everybody whom they want to see it, to show that they have been doing the right thing by schools, that they have been flying the flag.

Mr Collaery: Yes, they will print their inside lies.

MR SPEAKER: Order, Mr Collaery!

MR HUMPHRIES: To preserve the integrity that they think they have. We know that the argument is not of that nature. We know that it is essentially a legal one, which undoubtedly the Australian Labor Party - - -

Mr Berry: On a point of order: Mr Collaery interjected across the floor that the Labor Party would print its inside lies. I would like him to withdraw that.

MR SPEAKER: To print what?

Mr Berry: He said "print their inside lies". I would like him to withdraw that.

Mr Collaery: Mr Speaker, there is no imputation to any person in that. I am quite entitled to say that the ALP as a party tells lies which, indeed, it does, constantly.

MR SPEAKER: Order! Your objection is overruled on that issue, Mr Berry. Please proceed, Mr Humphries.

Mr Berry: On a point of order, Mr Speaker: in the past you have ruled upon points of order in relation to which you have said that the collective could not be criticised in such a way.


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