Page 2631 - Week 09 - Wednesday, 8 August 1990

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MR MOORE (4.47): Mr Acting Speaker, I rise to my feet feeling very very proud at the moment because my eldest son is in the gallery for the first time, and is there on his own. It is a moment of great pride for me and I would like to welcome him here.

Members: Hear, hear!

MR MOORE: I wish to speak to this matter. It is not of great concern but is worth a few words. The real reason that we are changing the number from four to five, I believe, could have something to do with the fact that I have foreshadowed within the Committee of Conservation, Heritage and Environment the notion that I would be moving to re-examine the big bins issue as part of the report that looked into domestic management. Since I believe that the committee got that wrong, it was an appropriate thing to do with the committee. But with the numbers at two-two as a possibility, then it is clearly important for Dr Kinloch to be able to have the balance of power.

The committee may well be aware, as Mr Jensen knows, that things will be resolved in the negative. If he looks back at some of the actions of the Conservation, Heritage and Environment Committee he will know that I am well aware of how to use that particular device as well. I also can be quite pragmatic, as he will recall.

With reference to the whole process, I think it is important to point out that Dr Kinloch has always expounded the notion of consensus decision making. So I would have thought that a membership of four was an excellent number because four forces consensus decision making, whereas if you have five it is a different matter. So it is one thing to say we are into consensus decision making, but this particular motion indicates otherwise. As for Mr Berry's amendment changing the figure to six, I am really going to have to give that a little more thought.

MRS GRASSBY (4.49): I rise to support the amendment as a member of this committee. I do not wish to see this committee completely dominated by Government members. I am quite sure we already know that the Government has full control of the Planning, Development and Infrastructure Committee, and it is not going to be very happy unless Dr Kinloch is prepared to stand up for what he says in the committee room. He believes that the original people of our nation, the Aboriginals, would not be happy about the things that are coming out of the planning committee. As a member of the committee I would not be happy to see these things happening. So I would prefer to see at least six people on this committee.

Mr Collaery: What are the references?

MRS GRASSBY: Some of the things that were put up at that joint meeting we all had together. They were great for the Aboriginal community and their sacred sites and everything else!


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