Page 2562 - Week 09 - Wednesday, 8 August 1990

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Mr Duby says that some sort of a council is being set up and it will fix all of this. It is an advisory council which will advise Mr Duby, who is then guided by the Government - and just look at that ragtag mob opposite - - -

Mr Duby: Experts, they are.

MR BERRY: Who, the ragtag mob opposite?

Mr Duby: Both - the council and the Government.

MR BERRY: That is a chuckle! The fact is that if we wait for this Government to make a decision on occupational health and safety, we will be waiting till the end of the earth. The injured and dead will be piled high before anything is done about it.

Mr Jensen: Goodness me!

MR BERRY: Mr Jensen does not seem to recognise that people get killed in the building industry.

Mr Jensen: I do know that.

MR BERRY: Well, why do you not do something about it? As I said earlier, 95 per cent of employers in the ACT are exempt. When are you going to do something about it? You ought to squirm.

Mr Kaine: Why did you not do something? It was your Act.

MR BERRY: Because your mob blocked it, that is why. When Mr Stefaniak was working with you, he blocked it.

Mr Kaine: Because you could not persuade us that what you were doing was right.

MR BERRY: We could never persuade you that the traditional power differences between workers and employers should change. You are back in the dark ages, back in the squattocracy.

Mr Kaine: How is it that we spend more time talking to the trade unions than you did?

MR BERRY: Because you need to.

Mr Kaine: Because you could not get them on side. They will not talk to you, that is why.

MR ACTING SPEAKER: Order! Would all members just keep to the point, including Mr Berry. Let us stop these interchanges across the chamber. Please make your speech, Mr Berry, and not indulge in interchanges.

MR BERRY: Thank you, Mr Acting Speaker. Mr Duby's figures show that 95 per cent of employers are exempt under the Act.


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