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MR SPEAKER: Order! Chief Minister, please withdraw the statement.
Mr Kaine: When he speaks the truth, I will stop contradicting him.
MR SPEAKER: Order! Chief Minister, please! You are putting me in a position that I do not wish to find myself in. Please withdraw the imputation that the member lied; otherwise raise a motion of substance on it.
Mr Humphries: Mr Speaker, on a point of order; it is customary for the term "lie" or "liar" to be considered unparliamentary, but merely to suggest that someone is not making truthful statements is not of itself an unparliamentary expression or phrase.
MR SPEAKER: No, it is not a parliamentary expression that I am worried about, Mr Humphries; it is about a substantive motion. Otherwise we can all accuse one another across the floor, and this is not parliamentary procedure. I would once again ask the Chief Minister to withdraw the statement he made.
Mr Kaine: Mr Speaker, I do not withdraw anything. I asked him to tell the truth and I will ask him again. Please tell the truth.
MR SPEAKER: Order! I hereby suspend the sitting for 10 minutes.
Sitting suspended from 5.18 to 5.28 pm
Mr Berry: I would like to raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Under standing order 202(e) I call on the Speaker to name the Chief Minister.
MR SPEAKER: Thank you, Mr Berry, for your observation. Chief Minister, I will again give you the opportunity to withdraw.
Mr Kaine: Mr Speaker, I apologise to you for causing you such stress. Under the circumstances I will let Mr Berry have his petty point, and I withdraw.
MR SPEAKER: Thank you.
Mr Berry: Now, even though there has been a withdrawal, I raise the issue of standing order 202(e) again and ask the Speaker to name the Chief Minister.
MR SPEAKER: Overruled.
Mr Berry: Mr Speaker, I have to - - -
MR SPEAKER: Do you seek leave to address the Assembly?
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