Page 1863 - Week 07 - Wednesday, 30 May 1990
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Mr Kaine: On a point of order, Mr Speaker; that is a restatement of the original assertion.
MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: I would ask you to withdraw. That is saying exactly the same thing, Mr Berry, as "misled the Assembly".
MR BERRY: He did not mistakenly do so, Mr Deputy Speaker. Mr Humphries quite deliberately placed those figures before this Assembly and the people of Canberra. That is not an imputation. That is a matter of fact.
Mr Collaery: On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker; this member is persistently and wilfully disregarding the authority of the Chair. I ask that you consider naming him if he persists with this conduct.
Mr Moore: Which standing order?
Mr Collaery: It is 202(e).
MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: It is 202, Mr Collaery, and if he persists with that I will certainly consider naming him. He is not doing that, to my satisfaction at this stage. Mr Berry, if you are alleging that Mr Humphries deliberately placed figures that he knew to be misleading before the Assembly, that is a very serious allegation, and I would ask you to withdraw that.
MR BERRY: No, I did not say that. He deliberately placed misleading figures before the Assembly.
MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: That implies, Mr Berry, I think, that if he deliberately placed misleading figures he knew them to be misleading. Is that what you are saying? If you are not saying that, I think you had better rephrase that.
MR BERRY: He must know they are misleading. They are misleading figures.
MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: You may say that they are misleading, but if you are imputing that he knew they are misleading that is a serious allegation.
MR BERRY: I withdraw - - -
Mr Kaine: On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker; he is continuing with his assertion. He is declining to withdraw, and I suggest that you deal with him accordingly.
MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Thank you, Chief Minister. I think you have just withdrawn your allegation, have you not, Mr Berry?
MR BERRY: I withdraw that, Mr Deputy Speaker. You can call me on this one if you like, chum. Mr Deputy Speaker, Mr Humphries placed misleading figures before this Assembly and the people of Canberra.
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