Page 1688 - Week 07 - Tuesday, 29 May 1990

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MR SPEAKER: Order!

MR BERRY: I wish to move a motion to suspend so much of standing orders as will allow a censure motion to be debated.

Mr Kaine: Seek leave to move it and we will grant it.

MR BERRY: I move:

That so much of the standing and temporary orders be suspended as would prevent Mr Berry from moving a motion of censure of Mr Duby (Minister for Finance and Urban Services).

Mr Speaker, the reason for this censure motion - and I am running over old ground but it is important that this issue be well-canvassed - is to place on the record the issue of ministerial behaviour in the Government. In my view and in the Labor Opposition's view, sooner or later the Government must express its willingness to have its Ministers come under - - -

Mr Kaine: Don't you want it to come up? Is that why you are moving the suspension?

MR BERRY: It will be demonstrated in your vote on the suspension of standing orders, and I know that there is a certain sensitivity to being "bulldozed" from the Government benches opposite. Now if Mr Kaine chooses to oppose the suspension of standing orders to allow this very important censure motion to come on this evening - - -

Mr Kaine: I will then move to bring on your motion.

MR BERRY: Be it on your own head, because you are just playing games.

Mr Kaine: Debate it under standing orders and we will do it.

MR BERRY: The Government has moved to suspend standing orders to make ministerial statements which are mere repeats of repeats.

Mr Kaine: You would not give us leave. If you seek leave, we will give it to you.

MR BERRY: Well, we do not want any gifts from people like you, Mr Kaine. We will do it the hard way because we are used to that.

Mr Kaine: No, you will not, because you will not get leave to do it your way. We will not suspend standing orders.

MR BERRY: Well, you will do it the hard way.


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