Page 544 - Week 03 - Tuesday, 20 March 1990

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MR SPEAKER: Mr Whalan, I put it to you that you need to seek leave to move a motion on my statement. If leave is granted, then you can proceed to debate it.

MR WHALAN: Mr Speaker, I refer you to the minutes of the Assembly, from which you will see that every time the adjournment motion on a statement is made no leave is sought. It is not an adjournment by leave; it is an adjournment by standing order. I put it to you that this is in the same category.

MR SPEAKER: There is no motion to take note of; it was a statement. It was an answer to a question. It was not a motion before the Assembly.

MR WHALAN: You said, "I am making yet another statement". They were all in the form of statements, and you identified them as such Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: I beg to differ. It was an answer to a question.

MR WHALAN: I put it to you, Mr Speaker, that the statement which you have made today about the precincts of this Assembly goes so much to the heart of democracy in the ACT that you should agree to allow debate on this issue. If you do not agree to allow debate on it, it will be seen by the community that you are working in some way with the Executive.

Mr Kaine: On a point of order, Mr Speaker; I do not believe that this Assembly has to be subjected to this harangue by Mr Whalan. If he wants to seek leave to make a statement, he should seek leave to do it, and get it over and done with.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you, Chief Minister.

MR WHALAN: Mr Speaker, in deference to you, I seek leave of the Assembly to move that debate on the Speaker's statement concerning the precincts of the Assembly be adjourned and made an order of the day for the next day of sitting.

MR SPEAKER: The question is that the motion be agreed to.

Mr Duby: No. Is leave granted?

MR SPEAKER: The question is that the motion be agreed to.

Mr Duby: No; is leave granted?

Mr Jensen: No, we have not been asked whether we want to grant leave yet.

MR SPEAKER: Is leave granted?

Leave not granted.


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